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OKC-MIN
Sept 3, 2023 15:17:49 GMT -6
Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Sept 3, 2023 15:17:49 GMT -6
Oklahoma City Sends:
F Pascal Siakam $15,500,000 $15,500,000 $15,500,000 2026 OKC 1st
Minnesota Sends:
C Mark Williams $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $3,000,000 $4,000,000 G Dyson Daniels $2,500,000 $3,000,000 $3,500,000 $5,000,000 Pascal doesn't fit my team right this season right this second, but he was available at what I feel like is good value and I wanted to take advantage of that. I'm confident I can translate him into something that fits better sooner than later, and the pick a couple years down the line when I'm looking to get my team back on track helps curb how bad I'll feel if Daniels sorts out shooting.
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OKC-MIN
Sept 3, 2023 15:23:01 GMT -6
Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Sept 3, 2023 15:23:01 GMT -6
I accept
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OKC-MIN
Oct 21, 2023 21:44:25 GMT -6
Post by Phoenix Suns on Oct 21, 2023 21:44:25 GMT -6
Oklahoma City Thunder:
OKC was at 100m in salary and had to do something before the start of the season to get under the cap.
He had to move Sabonis, Fox, Murray, or Siakam, and he chose to move the oldest player.
I harp on OKC a lot (rightfully so: not rounding out his roster when he could win a title certain years, being inactive and not responding to trades, being the least sociable GM, etc.) and berated him privately in trade attempts a few months earlier saying he needed rookie scale guys to win.
Well, he jettisoned one of his jumbo contracts and absorbed Dyson Daniels and Mark Williams.
The thing that makes the Thunder tolerable is he has always been a strong GM and, unlike the Lakers, never ruined the league with horrendous trades that unfairly rewarded whoever happened to be online when LA decided to "make a splash" while treating Guru like a urinary cake.
He's an elite drafter, continuing that trend with Jalen Duren, and signed Dejounte Murray for free below market value, and now has replaced Siakam's production with Jimmy Butler while adding 2 promising rookies.
Mark Williams has the makings of a stud, and I am a Dyson Daniels disciple and believer, so I think this is a fair return for Siakam.
OKC's franchise value continues to be in the upper echelon of the league and he's set himself up nicely for the next few years with cheap contracts for Lauri Markannen, Jalen Duren, and the two aforementioned rookies, while his cornerstones of Fox (whom he drafted), Sabonis, and Murray remain young.
KPJ is dead money so he'll have to attach some draft capital to get rid of him if he wants to win this season and replace him with production.
Minnesota Timberwolves:
Wolves takes two maybes and turns them into a quantifiable superstar on a reasonable long-term contract, taking advantage of the Thunders cap crunch and transmogrifying rookie ether into gold.
The Ausar Thompson trade is starting to look like an L for me, so Minny is definitely making a lot of good moves lately. He's the Ivanchuk of Guru, 70% genius and 30% blunders, so we'll see if that combination of traits can produce a championship in fantasy.
That $60,000,000 in guaranteed salary to Christian Wood and Ben Simmons is one of the biggest hurdles in Guru. I'm assuming he's eating this year and letting his rookies develop and his dead money expire, so moving 10m 10m of Woods to a tanker next year should be feasible, while getting off 10m of Simmons should cost a pair of 2nds or something so that still leaves 2 years of Siakam at 15m to contend with.
A truly great GM would simply re-trade Siakam to a contender for max value now as many teams would be eager to add three years of Siakam on a solid salary for more than he gave up to OKC -- who was under the gun timewise. Wolves has all year, and contenders get thirsty at the trade dealine. Food for thought.
Looking at Minnesota's roster, I think he's just too far away from contention to make use of Pascal, so that is definitely the play. Ideas are cheap; execution is hard. We'll see what Minnesota cooks up. Hopefully something better than the Woods trade.
OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, Ausar Thompson, Robert Williams, Trey Murphy, Shaedon SHarpe, Quentin Grimes Nembhard (and in Bizarro World, GG Jackson) is a promising core, the only piece that is on the clock is Mr. Siakam so I am thinking that he could be on the move sooner rather than later.
It's not out of the question Wolves turns it around in time to keep him, but that would require moving a few more rookies for proven guys. It's hard to find the balance between Age 30 adjacent producers and rookie scale contracts that lead to a title.
Conclusion
I think this was a fair trade for both sides.
I'll echo what I said in a recent trade thread: the median outcome is a win for Wolves, although there are tail-end results where Mark Williams and Dyson Daniels on rookie scale can outproduce Siakam and net a W for OKC.
It's hard to truly grade asymmetrical trades with certainty unless you're looking to output Hot Takes and Stephen A. Smith up the place.
OKC was also under time pressure to get under the cap and get his house in order, so while the return wasn't spectacular, I think he netted two very promising young rookies who I am personally high on.
Good work from both teams.
I approve.
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OKC-MIN
Nov 9, 2023 9:08:36 GMT -6
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Nov 9, 2023 9:08:36 GMT -6
Good trade for both teams. I approve.
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